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Police firearms training officers	What the fuck are you doing? The catalouge of accidents is getting fucking ridiculous. They have shot themselves, they have shot police civvy staff, one stupid twat even shot the tip of his thumb off when he held it over the muzzle of his MP5. Do you even tell Plod which end to point away from himself and at the bad guys? I've shot practical rifle competitions against police teams and frankly they are a bunch of cavalier, amateurish cunts. Kids at air rifle clubs have better gun handling skills and more muzzle awareness than them. Get the Army or a firearms manufacturer's team in to teach them proper gun handling, and have them practice more than a fucking hour a month or whatever the minimum is... before its members of the public that get killed rather than other inept cops.

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		eight on Mon 09 June 2008 said... Brilliant. An angry individual who attends 'rifle competetions'. Just keep your own muzzle awareness out of the clock tower, OP & we can all sleep more soundly.
		Plodder on Mon 09 June 2008 said... Hmmm, strong criticism from a member of a rifle club, Dunblane anyone? Michael Ryan anyone? I think that if you expect to be a Police fireams officer and be popular you're a victim of wishful thinking. That said the OP is clearly a Cunt as most Police firearms instructors are ex military as am i and i've been an AFO for 8 years. Funnily enough we don't really accept applications from officers who are members of rifle or shooting clubs. They tend to be..........well.........a bit sad. I'm sure the OP knows the type, after all he is one.
		DickyM on Mon 09 June 2008 said... OP does have very valid points though eh plodder
		Plodder on Mon 09 June 2008 said... Taken in Isolation yes, but when you consider how many armed deployments and how much training happens in this country every day its a very small amount. The Army aren't immune from fuck ups, i was in for 5 years and i saw more than a few! We're an easy target, no one likes us etc. Well used to it but criticism from a saddo that's in a gun club? No thank you. He's probably pissed off because after Ryan they weren't allowed to own automatic rifles and after Dunblane they weren't allowed to own pistols. I've seen them, with their fancy shooting jackets, gloves and glasses. Talking about muzzle velocity and making their own bullets. Sad weird wankers who deeply worry me. You just know that they dress up at home and "Clear" the house with their "Piece". I'll take it from Joe public, they're entitled to their opinion, but not Mr Gun Nut.
		HeroicDose on Mon 09 June 2008 said... Yes Plodder, everyone who has an interest and/or talent in target shooting but isn't a cop is therefore blatantly a 'gun nut'. And you listen to public opinion, because they're generally a smart lot? Thanks for keeping us safe. Banning butter knives next on the agenda?
		HeroicDose on Mon 09 June 2008 said... Oh, and thank fuck gun crime has gone down so dramatically since the handgun ban. No, I'm not Charlton Heston's wanking ghost.
		Plodder on Mon 09 June 2008 said... I think you'll find the Government pass the necessary legislation to allow or prevent ownership of firearms. Of course the wonderful thing about living in a demorcracy is that if you don't agree with them you can vote against them. Personally i think that the threat of butter knives has often been over looked and your witty comment hides a real issue. As for an "Interest in target shooting." I'd love to know why thats interesting? I do enough of it, its boring. I enjoy spending my free time in a pub or walking my dog or taking the kids swimming, you know normal stuff. Keep on biting!
		serge on Mon 09 June 2008 said... Guns don't kill people Police firearms training officers do!!!!!, I heard it on a documentary on BBC2
		MingeDrinker on Mon 09 June 2008 said... I occasionally enjoy spraying my load in the air at pretend clay birdies, its a wizard wheeze. This 'gun nut cunt' picture you paint is a tad unfair Plodder, they aren't all that anal.
		MingeDrinker on Mon 09 June 2008 said... Oh and Im now quaking in my boots that the next time I see an armed cop he'll shoot me. Accidentally on purpose.
		HeroicDose on Mon 09 June 2008 said... You have more to worry about than a few blokes who like shooting holes in paper and would have been happy to leave the guns in a secure place at a gun club. It's not everyone's idea of fun but some people watch cricket or tennis which I find utterly mind-numbing. The OP's point that more training could only be a good thing is a valid one. I grew up in N Ireland where it was impossible not to have an awareness of firearms and their use and dangers. Then worked in a firearms related job. On a more important note I think you should teach your dog to shoot. That would be worth watching.
		ahknowme on Mon 09 June 2008 said... There are good cops, there are bad cops. Same as every profession. Just not all have guns.
		FuckYouCunts on Tue 10 June 2008 said... This is turning into one of those posts where people seem to feel the need to write essays about their life experience. What's wrong with a few nob jokes and calling people cunts? This isn't Yahoo Answers you try-hard wank buckets.
		Nadiestar on Tue 10 June 2008 said... You're right fuckyoucunts .... All coppers are cunts and all of my dealings with them have them being cunty cunt kicking cunts. Now as for the knob jokes... have you seen my ex boyfriends knob. NOW thats a joke!
		kwebb on Tue 10 June 2008 said... Most men who join gun clubs look and dress like Walter Sobchak. "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS - WHEN YOU FUCK A STRANGER IN THE ASS."
		HeroicDose on Tue 10 June 2008 said... Fuckyoucunts, you are right and I apologise. Just don't like this "gun nut' fuckery. Someone who likes target shooting or clay pigeon shooting is no more a gun nut than someone who "spends their free time in a pub or walking the dog or taking the kids swimming" is likely to be an alcoholic paedophile with a penchant for dog buggery. It's extreme generalisation which I don't want to hear from the police force. Oh, and I forgot to say meaty otter cunts.
		RightRoyalBastard on Tue 10 June 2008 said... Eddie Izzard had a point about clay pigeon shooting, don't bother hitting them in the air, that's hard. Just wait till the fuckers have landed, stroll on over and give them both barrels point blank...
		Barbersmith on Tue 10 June 2008 said... The Old Bill aren't very good at taking criticism, are they? And I should know. Mind you, who does like criticism? Quim.
		MrsMoon on Tue 10 June 2008 said... We have to stop this 'cop on cop' crime, society is in chaos...
		PennyCentury on Tue 10 June 2008 said... I'm with ahknowme, there's good and bad in every profession. It's just that the Police cop more flack because they do an unpopular job. I know a couple of blokes from the police armed response unit and they are great and have all their thumbs in tact but that doesn't mean I think this is a universal truth.
		shitkicker on Tue 10 June 2008 said... So plodder, a member of a rifle club is "sad" but a man who has made his whole working career revolve around guns and the opportunity to shoot them at people rather than targets is a perfectly balanced member of society?
		buzzybelew on Tue 10 June 2008 said... What we need is a an army of robot ferrets, each armed with a gatling gun that fires explosive rounds at fat people, chavs and 'suspicious' kittens.
		Alright on Tue 10 June 2008 said... thats a fucking stupid idea. It would never work.
		bystander on Tue 10 June 2008 said... MrsM has a point, at one time in the USA most cops were in fact killed by their chums in "Accidental Fire" incidents. However I can see millions now going on endless pointless enquiries when cleary there has been an accident.
		Hillbilly on Tue 10 June 2008 said... You know when a yank is being friendly because he'll shoot you.
		serge on Tue 10 June 2008 said... ACAB
		alwayswright on Tue 10 June 2008 said... "before its members of the public that get killed rather than other inept cops" what about that brazilian they shot 7 times or whatever it was?
		RightRoyalBastard on Tue 10 June 2008 said... Doesn't count Always. He had it coming.
		HeroicDose on Tue 10 June 2008 said... Armed police do have a tough job. I wouldn't have liked to have to make the decision to fire on de Menezes. Or not fired, and then be posthumously blamed if he had been loaded with explosives. That's why I only shoot targets. Always naked, with nightvision googles on, from up a tree, humming the theme tune from Cagney & Lacey.
		SukieBapswent on Tue 10 June 2008 said... Cagney and Lacey are fucking brilliant. Lacey even went out on duty with her gun while heavily pregnant and she never let any of her crazy hormones get in the way of catching baddies.
		LICKER on Tue 10 June 2008 said... I'd be happy to volunteer my services as a training officer. I teach and endorse the Kurt Kobain method.
		Vellocet on Tue 10 June 2008 said... They can always come here to Los Angeles to have some proper firearms training. Everyone knows we Americans love our guns!
		ahknowme on Tue 10 June 2008 said... I even met a fair cop once.
		ahknowme on Tue 10 June 2008 said... Not in the best of circumstances, mind.
		Plissken on Sat 14 June 2008 said... Hehehe.. what a laugh. My sides are splitting. One man has lost his life and another (possibly a friend) has to live with the knowledge that he took it. But lets all use that as an excuse to throw cheap shots at the police(no pun intended!) shall we? Accidents happen in all walks of life. People die, are crushed or loose limbs doing jobs they do every day. Why? Because that’s the human factor. Mistakes can be made. Am I saying that the people involved in this unfortunate incident are blameless? Certainly not. Operating procedures clearly weren’t followed and that will come to light. But purely by its very nature this is a high risk job. And SHOCK HORROR that includes the training. And as mentioned previously the army has its fair share of stupid and pointless accidents. so kindly show some respect for the late Ian Terry and cut the police some slack!
		yosemitesam on Sat 14 June 2008 said... yeah what he said ya flop cocks